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Dog packs and how some things work in them.. yes
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4 Jul 2011, 21:45
Meghans Follie
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Before I post the details... Kinda want to get a feel for the general bloop feeling towards pitts... If there is someone who is pro-pitts and knows a lot about them - then I'll post whats going on ..... Sorry just dont want to get into the whole "ooo they kill people" bit (which I am sure there will be people who do that.. if it turns into that - powers that be may feel free to move this to drama and if someone can help or offer advice pls PM me)
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4 Jul 2011, 21:57
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I'm not much for dogs (or animals) in general. But I'm of the mind that there is no one particular breed that is more vicious or dangerous than another. I think they're a lot like people in that way. Some people are more violent/dangerous than others - I feel like it's the same with dogs.
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5 Jul 2011, 00:35
Beautiful Lies
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A lot of people think Pitbulls are mean dogs because a lot of the stories we hear are about the bad things that happen to be done by pitbulls. I also believe I read somewhere that the majority of attacks we hear about involve pitbulls and that a good percentage of the dogs in the pound are pitbulls too. But we do the same thing with people. Especially when profiling for crimes. Think about it. Almost 1/2 of the prison population is African American. About 18% of it is Latinos. These two groups only make up about 24% of the total US population. So therefore we see those groups as ones that 'usually' commit crimes. Should we do this? No, but we can't help it, the statistics are there.

Also those percentages about the prison v. us population was from a chart in 2003 from one of my chicano studies classes. It came from the New York Civil Liberties Union webpage.
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4 Jul 2011, 22:31
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I work for a small-city pound at the moment. We get a variety of dogs in, but a very large number are pits because this is the type of city (i.e. a city filled with meth-heads) that attracts people who want pits BECAUSE of the conception that they're "mean" dogs. The only breed we get more than pits are labs and lab mixes and that's because labs are EVERYWHERE. I've never met a pit that was a constant danger to me, personally, but you just need to look at them to see how much biting force they have. I am, typically, the one that handles the dogs. I take them out of their kennels and take their photo, I feed them and water them, take them in and out to visit people, but virtually every full-blood pit that I've dealt with has been animal-aggressive (unless it's a dog they've grown up with). They are fiercely territorial, and we have had calls multiple times about pits chasing people down because the person had passed the dog's property. We quarantine dogs that bite people and out of the year that I've worked there and, maybe, thirty to forty dog-bites (I can't recall the exact number at the moment), a majority of them were labs, not pits. (But, again, it's because we have so many labs). Just last week an Australian Shepherd took a chunk out of a 6-year-old's face a quarter of an inch deep.

When I first started my job, there was this huge silver pit named Psycho. To this day, he is the biggest pit I've ever seen. His head was broad like a dinner plate. He's the first dog I had to handle, and as I fed him, he broke his way out... because he was so excited to eat. He promptly went back into his cage when I put his food dish in there. One of the scariest looking dogs, but so sweet. (My favorite dog was a mastiff-pit mix named Bruno. He was the absolute sweetest dog. ...and huge.)

There are dogs that are bred as your "typical" family pets (like labs), there are dogs that are bred for hunting (like hounds), there are dogs that are bred for protection (like pits and rotts) but not all dogs have the same personality. The breed does not STRICTLY make the dog. I don't dislike pits. I wouldn't want one because they typically are animal-aggressive and can be violently territorial, but in a typical setting, they don't really hurt people anymore than any other dog can. So, I am not anti-pit, but I do not agree with the uber-pro-pit notion that they are passive-sweet-as-can-be-and-it's-all-only-a-bad-rap-because-when-I-was-five-we-had-THE-sweetest-pit-and-it-never-would-hurt-anyone-etc.-etc.-etc. because I deal with pits on a daily basis and I have seen them attempt to fight dogs through the kennels and they have bit people and dogs and have chased down passerbys. (Again, not all of them.) BUT all dogs are barely tame animals. I think the meanest breed I've dealt with are chihuahuas. I'm not kidding. They're EVIL.

I'M NOT A DOG EXPERT, but I have picked up a lot in my job. You can PM me if you want, but I'd like to know what's going on before I start giving out my opinion. ;)
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5 Jul 2011, 05:05
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I'm of the opinion that regardless of breed and inherent traits, the way an animal is raised has a lot to do with their temperament. Just like people, if they're abused or neglected, they're much more likely to be troublesome later on. However, also like people, animals have individual personalities, so even two dogs from the same litter that have experienced identical social treatment could conceivably be complete polar opposites.

Pitbulls have a long history of being wonderful family companions, and I personally think they're intelligent, not to mention adorable. :D
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5 Jul 2011, 06:40
Tam I Am
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I believe any dog can be a mean dog. I think it's all in how you raise them.
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5 Jul 2011, 06:46
Meghans Follie
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I agree with that, but I do not raise my dogs to be mean. If you are interested my latest entry is about whats going on
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5 Jul 2011, 13:28
& skull.
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not necessarily. we had a lab that was just bad with other dogs. we had him trained in every which way ans he was still an aggressive shit to other dogs. some dogs just can't turn off the aggression, which is a shame, but they are just like humans. some people are just born with issues.
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