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Under-weight baby?
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13 Dec 2009, 02:07
Mary Magdelene
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Scratch off "efficiently". It can't use the processed sugars in any healthy sort of way.
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13 Dec 2009, 04:06
Chris
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What is a naturally occurring sugar? Sucrose? That IS sugar, and the only "naturally occurring" sugar there is. Some companies add fructose and lactose, but I guess that's what you cal "over-processed crap" that's going to make everyone obese, right?
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13 Dec 2009, 04:17
Mary Magdelene
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Sucrose is table sugar. Table sugar is processed and refined until there are no redeeming health qualities left. I mean the sugars that are found in fruits and whole grains.

I said stuffing a BABY full of it is an unhealthy way to get a baby to gain weight.
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13 Dec 2009, 04:26
Mary Magdelene
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You know, I've already determined that very few people in this site believe the same things I do about health, so I'm not getting into yet another discussion about the benefits of omitting processed/high sugar foods. So my final word on THIS TOPIC, of the baby being fed Pediasure because, while he's already got baby chubs, he's apparently not fat enough for the Doctor, is: Feeding a baby a drink that is chock full of processed sugar is NOT a healthy way to get the baby to gain weight, just as it is not a healthy way to get ANYONE to gain weight. That's GOT to be something EVERYONE can at least agree on?
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14 Dec 2009, 03:34
Chris
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I'm still not understanding what you mean by "processed sugar." What do you think they put in sugar that you give it the "processed" title?

Please, give some facts.
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14 Dec 2009, 05:01
Mary Magdelene
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"Processed" does not necessarily mean something was added to it. Processed means "subjected to a special process or treatment". See my answer to Aiure below for more information.
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14 Dec 2009, 04:41
Aiure
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From Wikipedia:

Table sugar (sucrose) is found naturally in many food plants along with the monosaccharide, fructose. In many fruits, such as pineapple and apricot, sucrose is the main sugar. In others, such as grapes and pears, fructose is the main sugar. In starchy vegetables, e.g. potatoes and sweet potatoes, the main source of sugars is starch.

Just thought I'd clarify.
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14 Dec 2009, 04:59
Mary Magdelene
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And look up how it is refined before it makes it to packaging. Sucrose does not reach us in it's natural form. The entire process of manufacturing the sucrose strips it of it's real nutritional benefit. All one has to do is Google how sucrose is processed to see what the process is from source to packaging to find the process. In moderation there is not really a HUGE deal, but when talking about things like the topic of this thread it can turn into a problem, as it turns into consumption that is not considered moderation.
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14 Dec 2009, 05:13
Aiure
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So what you'd want is organic sugar cane or something like that instead of processed sugar. I see I see.

I know nothing of raising kids, so I'm curious as to how feeding a child something like Pediasure would automatically lead to excessive sugar intake. Too much of the product (giving it to them whenever rather than, say, only once a day)? Not taking a child off Pediasure at the proper time? Addictive qualities of the product itself?
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14 Dec 2009, 05:29
Chris
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I actually did google "how is sucrose processed" and I got nothing but the process in which sugar cane is grown, as well as the history of sugar. The only thing I could find off Google was:

Sucrose is a complex carbohydrate with a chemical composition of a disaccharide of glucose and fructose, two other types of sugars. Sucrose can be manufactured as table sugar and other sugar products by harvesting and processing sugar cane and sugar beets.

So either you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and blindly accepted a myth someone told you one time, or you have some information that you're not willing to share.

Look, YOU made the claim, so YOU provide the source.
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14 Dec 2009, 05:31
Chris
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By the way, that quote came from ehow.com
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14 Dec 2009, 06:09
Mary Magdelene
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Straight from the Sucrose.com site itself. And since I have gotten into this discussion, or variations of it, with people on this site MANY times in the last five years (yourself included), I'm not continuing this discussion after I give you one of the links. You're apparently intelligent. Research it. You don't learn anything by having people spoon-feed it to you.

http://www.sucrose.com/lref.html

P.S. And by "I'm not continuing this discussion", that means that once I'm done posting this, I'm not returning to this thread. So if you post anything, and I don't reply, that's why. Because I'm tired of getting in to the same discussions, practically ad nauseum. The results will never change. It's like watching the same movie hoping it ends differently. It won't. And I've already seen the ending to this discussion. On more than one occasion. So if I don't respond again, it's not because I don't have anything else to offer or you've "won", it's because I'm done with the discussion because I know how it will end...the same way it always has.
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14 Dec 2009, 15:42
Chris
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Er, I don't participate in discussions with the intention of landing a "victory." It's more or less wanting to see a source to your claim. So you did, and I shall view your link.

Which I did, and this is sugar refining, which is basically making the syrup they collect from all over the place (fruits, vegetables, etc.) into raw sugar. Which has nothing to do with stripping it of its healthy qualities. Like I've said before, there's nothing unhealthy about sugar unless it's consumed in high quantities.

Just remember that YOU made the claim, and now you're running from the discussion, claiming you've had it millions of times before on this site (I've been here about 6 years, I've never heard of you, unless you've changed your name, but your diary is private). I'm not trying to interrogate you about sugar, nor am I sending any form of gestapo to your house - it's JUST an internet discussion.
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12 Dec 2009, 05:35
.Blue Bella.
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She sounds weight obsessed... to be honest. Like she is ignoring the doctor simply because she has issues with fatness. She has mentioned his weight, but also mentioned the fact that she's lost weight chasing him around. I think she sounds like an idiot.. irrespective of what she does. She's not making a strong case. My daughter is small, gains weight slowly and not a lot really. But she gains, and that is the key point. She's just small.
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12 Dec 2009, 19:23
prettylittlekitty
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My oldest wasn't gaining weight when he was a baby. He was always thin, but tall. I had him on Pediasure but he didn't like it. I think that girl just needs to suck it up and give her baby what he needs. My new baby is smaller than my first and if the doctor is concerned about it... then I would listen.
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12 Dec 2009, 21:18
.xoxo
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I think your friend sounds really ignorant. I don't think she needs to feed her kid pediasure though, but maybe give it vitamins to make sure he's getting all of the nutrients he needs. As long as he is eating a healthy diet than I don't see a problem with it. I was a really small baby, born at 6lbs 3oz and when I left the hospital I was only 5lbs 14oz. I was also 75lbs until I was like 12, but once I started to go through puberty I gained more weight and it was normal. Everyone is different, and if the family is mostly skinny and small like that, then it's probably just genetics anyways. I don't think she should worry about her baby getting fat though, just worry about him being healthy!
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14 Dec 2009, 15:42
kel-sy
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I think that she sounds immature, but her decision isn't going to hurt her child. If he has rolls, he's fat enough. And I can understand where she's coming from with the over weight comments. I was a small child, and now that I've gained a lot of weight (after pregnancy), I wouldn't want my daughter to deal with that. Plus obesity is unhealthy.
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