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Kidnappings
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7 Mar 2010, 16:55
Acid Fairy
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That's so fucked. That label will follow him around for the rest of his life. I heard that teens who send naked pics of themselves to boyfriends and girlfriends risk getting put on it too. Retarded.
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7 Mar 2010, 21:45
septemberocio
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Yeah, see... that's just dumb.
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8 Mar 2010, 00:59
Jessica [Private]
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Yeah, because she was under 18, her parents pressed charges against him for statutory rape.

I think it's really stupid. The age of consent (in my state at least, I think it may be lower in others.) is 16. A girl should be able to have sex with whoever after that point.
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8 Mar 2010, 02:01
Mary Magdelene
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It's because he was three years or more older than the minor. Age of consent only applies if the parties are no more than three years apart in age. Two in some states. They will stop being at risk for getting into that trouble only once the minor reaches the age of 18.

And even if both of them are minors, but they are three years or more difference in age, the older one will still get tagged with a sex offender rap. So a 15 year old who has sex with a 12 year old.
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8 Mar 2010, 02:02
Mary Magdelene
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I guess I didn't finish my last thought.

"So a 15 year old who has sex with a 12 year old will also be tagged with a sex offender rap." Not that i think 12 year olds and 15 year olds should be having sex anyway. I'm just saying.
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8 Mar 2010, 02:49
*Forever Changing*
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In the state of wisconsin if you are under 16 its automatically a sex offense my brother and his girlfriend got caught having sex when they were both 14, they are both sex offenders now, and they are 20 ish.
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9 Mar 2010, 23:38
jessi bear(:
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there's one about eight blocks from my house that was convicted of aggravated sexual assault on a child on nine! it makes me sick!
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7 Mar 2010, 02:35
starsmaycollide
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Isn't familywatchdog.us the site that has been discussed in the past in a forum here and is thought to be fake? I'm trying to remember. I know a fake one was discussed here before, but I am not sure if that is the same one.
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7 Mar 2010, 03:02
septemberocio
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I didn't know about the discussion, but I went on that website and it had most of the information for our california state registered sex offenders website - same info, so i'm pretty sure it's not. Hmm.
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7 Mar 2010, 03:09
starsmaycollide
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okay, well I can't remember which one it was...maybe it was one with a very similar name. (which would make sense I guess, to confuse people.)
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7 Mar 2010, 05:58
Lacey
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Not here to argue, and I agree with all of you, there are some sick people out there who have done some sick things and should be stuck in jail for the rest of thier lives. HOWEVER not every sex offender is the same, just like not every person who has stole something is the same, or every person who has commited a crime is the same. Which is why every person in prison or jail is evaluated and released upon completion of certain programs and specific amounts of time. I had an opinion of every person who had ever commited a sex offense too... till I met one who yes, made a horrible decision, however, did not forcefully take it from someone, he slept with a girl who was too young to be sleeping with people. He was under the impression that she was older than she was. She has now sent 3 men to prison, who shouldnt be there. Upon release of prison, this man has had over 500 hours of therapy inside and outside prison, is still on strict DOC regulated guidelines and will be registering untill 10 years to the day he was found guilty. Does this mean he is a bad person? No. Does this mean he is going to go to the same thing? No. Does this mean he is going to go kidnap someone? No. Does this mean he is going to kill someone? No. Does this mean he made a mistake? Yes. Does this mean he is paying for his mistake? Yes.

There are offenders out there in situations like this that are not horrible monsters like some people make them out to be. There are some offenders who have served there time and are just trying to live a normal life as they can after something like this. Every person has a different story. So just because you have a level 3 sex offender, who offended 9 years ago, lives 6 houses away from you, doesnt mean he is going to rape you or kidnap your child. In general people should worry for thier safety, but dont judge someone because of a label they have.

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7 Mar 2010, 13:09
Acid Fairy
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I agree. And let's not forget that most child abusers were abused as children themselves. They are very damaged people (with good reason!)

However, I often think about in the past, when girl were married by age 14 and popping out kids. That was seen to be normal (obviously this post is not advocating sex with 14 year olds and especially not with girls younger than that!). Do you not think that it is in our DNA to be attracted to young people? After all they do have the best fertility. It is an interesting thing to think about.
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7 Mar 2010, 21:51
septemberocio
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Most child abusers get abused when they were children... damaged people? VERY, It's really really sad and NOT their fault at all, but does it make it okay for them to do it back to an innocent child? Of course not. - Everyone does have their own stories, but there's a difference when you're having sex with someone with consent but it's still ilegal, or something retarded like that - but abusing, raping a child - there's no right in that wrong. I know you didn't mean it that way, I just had to comment on it because I wasn't so sure what you were backing up with that statement.
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7 Mar 2010, 21:45
septemberocio
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Every person does have a different story :)
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7 Mar 2010, 15:39
Sarah*
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I agree that whilst websites like the ones mentioned can have their uses they can also end up making people over react and panic. I agree with those who have mentioned that not every sex offender is going to be a risk to your children. Yes there are a number of sex offenders who will go on to reoffend but like Brycen's Mommy pointed out, not every sex offender is the same. If, say, a 19 year old has sex with a 16 year old, with consent, it could still end up that the 19 year old is a registered sex offender for a period of time. Is he really going to be a risk to a child? No, probably not.
People make judgements that every sex offender is some dirty old man who is obviously on the look out for this next victim. Not so.

It always really bugs me when people teach children about "stranger danger" but makes out that every stranger out there is a huge threat. Children need to know about keeping themselves safe of course but don't frighten them into thinking everyone who is a stranger is going to be a potential flipping kidnapper or abuser! Children need to be taught where they can go and who they can trust if they ARE in danger. Police, street wardens, teachers etc. And yes, I know these people can potentially be abusers to but it just winds me up when I overhear parents using strangers and their potential danger to frighten children. The amount of times I have heard parents, when their child is throwing a tantrum etc saying things such as "If you don't behave yourself that man over there will come and get you / tell you off etc etc". And that poor man is just a cashier/security guard/ fellow customer!!
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7 Mar 2010, 16:23
HorrorVixen XO
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i couldnt help but lmao to this *"If you don't behave yourself that man over there will come and get you / tell you off etc etc". And that poor man is just a cashier/security guard/ fellow customer!!* omg has that ever happen to me when i was little.. thats so funny.

as for brycen's mom's comment on the whole *16 year old having sex with a 19 year old, yeah thats some fckd up shit. but it happens all the time.

on a whole different story, my brother is going through a situation right now. he was seeing this girl and she was of age(i think). well she got pregnant and just so her parents wouldnt know she was having sex, she told them my brother raped her. so now my brother is sitting in an arkansas prison awaiting his 2011 release.
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7 Mar 2010, 20:14
Lacey
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Its sad, things like that happen all the time, I have a friend in prison for the exact same thing, minus the pregnancy. Also my fiance is a sex offender because a girl, said she was 18 when she wasnt, after they had sex she wanted something that he had, and when he didnt give it to her, she called the police, told them her REAL age, and sent him to prison. He isnt a bad person, and I know he wont re-offend. We played hell trying to get permission for him to have a relationship with me because I have a minor child, and even more hell getting permission for him to be around my son. What the sad thing is, is these girls who suddenly decide they were raped so they dont get grounded by thier parents, or lie about there age, are ruining mens lives, and thier families lives, because they now have a loved one in prison... and these girls just walk away from it with nothing but a STD test and a restraining order... No trouble no regrets, nothing. It makes me mad.

Again though, there are truly creepy people out there, there are sex offenders who will repeat offend, and this is where our system fails us, is that they need to be watched closer if they show signs of re-offending, or are higher risk, but because there are so many people in prison and on books, they dont have enough money and resources to do so.

Just because someone stole a piece of candy when they were 10 from a grocery store doesnt mean you need to worry and be fearful that they will steal your car right!!!!! So get to know someone before you judge them.

And on a side note, those parents who tell thier kids that if they arent good that person over there is going to take them away is rediculous.. ugh.
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7 Mar 2010, 21:16
HorrorVixen XO
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i agree. ur fiance and my brother r not bad people. it just fckn sucks that they had to serve time for those bitches. why b.c one wanted something and the other was scared!?! so fck stupid!!!!

and that whole peeing and having to registure as a sex offender b.c of it is the most dumbest thing i've ever heard!!!
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7 Mar 2010, 21:43
septemberocio
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I agree!
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9 Mar 2010, 23:45
jessi bear(:
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i guy that i know was twenty years old with a seventeen year old girlfriend. he was living with her at her parents home, but when they broke up, her parents pressed charges for statutory rape and he's now a registered sex offender.
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7 Mar 2010, 20:38
Beautiful Lies
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This is absolutely true. And you also have to think about it like this too: Where are these people supposed to live? There are families and children EVERYWHERE. So chances are people that are registered sex offenders are going to live in somewhat close proximity to a child somewhere. Believe me, I hate creepy fuckers that think it's okay to hurt children etc. However, we can't just force them to live on the street in a cardboard box under a bridge because you hear the words 'registered sex offender' and automatically think this person is going to rape and abduct your child.
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7 Mar 2010, 21:23
HorrorVixen XO
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true but is it ok for them to live so close to a friggin school? no. chances r that if a kid goes missing, they'll question the convicted child molester before anyone else. yes, children r everywhere but they should have certain areas where they're NOT suppose to live.
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7 Mar 2010, 23:37
Beautiful Lies
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...I know. Living next door to a school and living 2 doors down from a child are not the same thing. What I was saying was that you shouldn't think that a registered sex offender should have to live on the street because you don't want them living 2 doors away from you.
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8 Mar 2010, 12:28
Let It Be
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I agree 110% with Sarah*. While the threat of 'stranger danger' is a very scary one (and of course children should be taught how to keep themselves safe), realistically (based on crime statistics), children are more likely to be harmed/abused/killed/molested by an acquaintance or family member than by a stranger. So beware of creepy uncles and unloving stepfathers too, not just strangers! The media plays it up so it seems like random abductions are the norm, when this is simply not so.
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7 Mar 2010, 21:06
septemberocio
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Well, of course there are many different kinds of registered sex offenders, and they are humans and I'm not going around judging them. I know that around here, if you get caught having sex in your car & the cops pull you over - you could get listed as an offender. PRETTY RETARDED! And I know there is the whole issue about the 20 year old having sex with the 17 year old, and all that - we all do that kind of stuff. But I am not talking about one person in specific, I'm talking about the person who is out there and has all the intentions to keep doing it - I'm talking about the people who kill. That information is out there for us so that we can keep an eye out, know that there is something out there and REGARDLESS if there wasn't - anyone, ANYONE could do something to you. You don't have to live your life in fear (I don't and I've been in some pretty messed up situations) - it's just the whole idea of being AWARE - to protect you and your own.
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