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DON'T GET A FLU SHOT!
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22 Oct 2009, 06:34
Mishy
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most people don't know that unfortunately, and like you in the beginning of your summer, take all their vitamins (especially large doses of vitamin c to ward off oncoming colds) at once and don't see the affects they wanted. Spacing out the doses however would give you more of the desired immune boost. As you now know (; (though, as I said, there is something to be said for "expensive urine", given that there is evidence that it helps ward off urinary tract infections, but in regards to generally feeling better, or immunity helping properties, spacing them out is definitely the best bet)
On that note, most people in modern industrialized nations do not have a "healthy" enough diet to sustain the vitamin c dose a day that would be the most beneficial. (:

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19 Oct 2009, 22:03
[danielle electra.]
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Poor little girl :(

My friend got a flu shot & STILL caught the swine flu...
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19 Oct 2009, 22:07
[danielle electra.]
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Scratch that little part..
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19 Oct 2009, 22:07
Transit
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Well thats because the flu shot is completely useless against swine flu.
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19 Oct 2009, 22:55
~RedFraggle~
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Do you mean she got the SWINE flu vaccine? Or the regular flu vaccine? Regular flu vaccine doesn't protect against swine flu (or vice versa). :P
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20 Oct 2009, 12:00
lithium layouts.
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I'm completely and utterly for vaccinations. They're out there because they've been tested time and time again and approved as relatively safe for human use. Sure, like everything else, there are risks associated with it (e.g. surgery, painkillers, catching the bus!) but the tiny risks are outweighed by the huge benefits to the individual and society. I think by taking such a story and running with it is a bit short-sighted. I can appreciate that such events are extremely unlucky and tragic for the individual, but I believe it is offset by the REDUCTION in the MANY tragedies associated with getting the flu, which, in susceptible populations, can be deadly and very disabling in itself.
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20 Oct 2009, 12:10
Shattered Dreams
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In all seriousness, I hope that everyone that decides not to have a flu shot because of this "1 in a million" side-effect dies of seasonal flu.

Please, please, please stop getting flu shots. This is natural selection at its finest.
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20 Oct 2009, 13:22
Acid Fairy
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Lmfao!
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28 Oct 2009, 14:45
*~Loving You~*
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I just got a flu shot last night I'm fine
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19 Oct 2009, 03:27
Beautiful Lies
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wow. How special we are!

All sorts of problems and diseases are triggered by different events. Just because a flu shot triggered a neurological disease for one woman doesn't mean that it's going to trigger a disease for another. You shouldn't be discouraged from getting a flu shot because of this.
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28 Oct 2009, 19:45
Emily the Strange
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Stop it. You're being smart. We don't like yer kind 'round here.
-snicker-
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19 Oct 2009, 04:24
just samma;
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this doesn't shock me...
just makes me feel even more confident about my choice not to vax my family.
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19 Oct 2009, 05:28
Mary Magdelene
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I agree with you completely.
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19 Oct 2009, 08:43
Minda Hey Hey™
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I don't mean this in any harm at all, promise, but I was just curious...would it make a difference if the child had a lower immune system when it was born? Though I have to admit the one vaccine I still don't understand is the Tdap one. Apparently I had not been caught up on that one and got it a few weeks ago. I noticed it was for tetanus, diptheria and pertussis which I know is whooping cough. So the tetanus and pertussis I understand but is diptheria really that common around here? Sorry, that question wasn't necessarily for you lol just something I've been curious about myself.
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19 Oct 2009, 11:27
~RedFraggle~
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Diptheria isn't common because of the success of the vaccination campaign. But if a large number of people stop vaccinating their kids there is a risk of these diseases returning. It's already happening with measles.
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22 Oct 2009, 05:27
T.A.I
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My boyfriend actually has measles, believe it or not!

We thought it might have been scarlet fever, since it comes from strep, but he tested negative for strep. He WAS vaccinated for measles, so him getting it makes very, very little sense, but he went to the Dr and it turns out that's what it is. He's 23 too, and he's miserable as shit. Congested, having trouble breathing, sinuses and tonsils swollen and sore.

I'm completely fine. I actually got an MMR last year when I started college, because apparently I got my MMR as a child "too early" and it was declared invalid.
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19 Oct 2009, 11:10
~RedFraggle~
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That is completely illogical. ONE video of one person affected by one EXTREMELY rare condition supports your anti-vaccine opinion? If you're so easily influenced, what about these photos...

This is a pregnant woman with swine flu, in intensive care. She was there for weeks. She needed to go onto ECMO, a machine which removed blood from the body and oxygenates it and returns it as the lungs are incapable of effective oxygenation. She AND her unborn baby very nearly died...

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This is a child who had meningococcal septicaemia that resulted in several limbs having to be amputated to save his life. (Admittedly not all strains of meningitis can be prevented with vaccination, but some can be)...

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And finally, this is Cecily Johnson, in Australia. The picture she is holding is of her 12 year old daughter who died in 1995 from measles...

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So with these pictures have I changed your opinion??

Now I'm of course not suggesting anyone form their opinion based on some photos. My point is that people shouldn't watch the video posted here and decide not to vaccinate because of it. They need to look beyond the scare tactics (because either side of the debate can produce scary pictures and videos) and decide whether or not the TINY risk associated with vaccines is outweighed by the life saving benefit of them.
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19 Oct 2009, 13:20
Acid Fairy
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Nice. I'm not going to be getting the jab as I'm not bothered about it (but I do work with kids so it depends on if they get ill!) But I don't understand people making decisions based on one case. There is always a risk with jabs, like there is with everything in life. I'd rather take my risk with a jab than risk getting something such as measles.
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19 Oct 2009, 15:07
just samma;
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No, those pictures have not changed my opinion.
Nor have i based my non-vax'ing opinion on solely on the story in the OP
My decision not to vax [other than tetanus so far] goes beyond this ONE story.
There are always going to be people on both sides of the fence on the issue. Some believe vax'ing is the only way, others believe its all a big money maker for the pharmaceutical companies.
its a personal choice that i do not take lightly. I'm not all up in arms screaming "I WILL NOT VAX! VACCINATIONS ARE THE DEVIL" either. But as of right now [as things could change in the future] vaccinations are not something my family will be getting.
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19 Oct 2009, 16:20
~RedFraggle~
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Am I remembering rightly that you plan to home school? Because if you aren't vaccinating your children, you are putting other children at risk too (for the measles vaccine to protect those who can't be vaccinated such as immunocompromised kids there needs to be a 70% 'herd immunity'. If your child isn't immunised, those other kids are in danger too). I guess it's OK though if you're planning on homeschooling your children and not allowing them to play with other kids.
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19 Oct 2009, 16:38
Newmommy09
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There was a episode of Law and Order about this. One mother decided she wasnt going to vaccinate her child from the measles and while going to the park it got another child infected and that child died. I believe its so sad that mother dont want to protect their child or other children for the matter but just not either wanting to or they dont believe in it. I think in some cases it should be mandatory for vaccines.
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19 Oct 2009, 17:21
just samma;
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You're right. We do plan to homeschool, but my children will also play with other children regardless of whether or not we decide to vax.
If we decide to send our children to a public school exemptions will be filed & we will have to obey the terms of them.
If there is any type of outbreak then my children will not be able to attend school or daycare until that has passed if they have no been vaccinated.
Even if my children were vaccinated and attending public school i would be keeping them home at any sign on illness to help protect immunocompromised children anyway.
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19 Oct 2009, 17:36
~RedFraggle~
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But the thing is that they may be contagious before you notice signs of the disease. They could already have infected a vulnerable child before you remove them from school. :P
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19 Oct 2009, 17:39
just samma;
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and it could go the same way for a child who has been vax'd.
thats just how it is when you get a bunch of germy little kids together in a setting like a school or daycare.
its like a swap and sample co-op of illness :P
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19 Oct 2009, 17:41
~RedFraggle~
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I don't understand your point. A vaccinated child is at very low risk of carrying a disease such as measles, therefore they are unlikely to infect a child who cannot be vaccinated. They are far more likely to be infected by a child who hasn't been vaccinated. :P

If I'm understanding what you meant correctly.
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